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In the last week, George Allen has had almost ten different stories surface of his racial insensitivity.
It's hard to imagine a bigger weenie than that.
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Before next week begins, let's have the word of all of Allen's defenders:
Allen is not lying, right?
All of his accusers are lying, including all of the people that have corroborated their stories. Correct?
Let's hear it: you put yourselves on record, right now. I invite you.
September 30, 2006 at 05:46 PM
Don't forget the liberal-media bias!
Denis Lemieux |
September 30, 2006 at 06:11 PM
The only difference between now and past races is that Democrat race-baiters have a blogosphere echochamber to increase the volume of their charges.
The real weenies are those who credit Allen's accusers, while ignoring Webb's.
James Young |
September 30, 2006 at 06:16 PM
Webb's accusER. The guy whose story is reflected neither in his story, nor in the tape of the interview.
As opposed to the multiple first-hand witnesses of Allen's charming talk.
September 30, 2006 at 06:26 PM
Mmmmm. Venison hot dogs!
September 30, 2006 at 06:26 PM
James, not like you can have any coherent response to this, but Webb only has one accuser, and that guy can't account for why the story he claims was told to him magically appears nowhere on the tape of the interview or the transcript. He's also been DIRECTLY rebutted by one of the supposed participants.
On Allen's side of the ledger, there are now 8 different named people all with different stories confirming the same pattern of language and behavior. None of the people Allen has brought out to rebutt these claims have actually done so: they've simply asserted that Allen would never say something like that. All the stuff about Wizard or his family doesn't directly rebutt anything even Shelton said, and Shelton is simply data-point #1. Furthermore, the deer head story has now been confirmed as having taken place by TWO DIFFERENT other people. Allen denied it... but it certainly looks like it happened and he's lying about that as well. What does that say about his credibility.
In addition to all this, we have a woman with people who attest that she mentioned the incident back when it happened: long before Webb even joined the Regan administration, much less could have formed your alleged conspiracy to fabricate claims about Allen.
And in response to all this, all you guys can say is "democrat!" and "smears" as if merely being a Democrat was reason enough to risk your reputation and lie, or "smear" could somehow distract anyone from the question of whether the charges are true.
Intersting how you didn't answer the question I posed. Please, if these are all smears, then go on the record: Allen definately is telling the truth and never used the word, right?
Will you do that? Because otherwise, your yamming about democrats and smears is just a goofy facade.
September 30, 2006 at 06:27 PM
If we've learned anything this past week, it's that our racist senator and his apologists can dish it out, but they certainly can't take it.
Not Huey Long |
September 30, 2006 at 06:33 PM
James, you mean the lone accuser who has a tape of an interview with Webb where he says offensive things...but that portion is excised somehow from the recording?
Not Ben |
September 30, 2006 at 06:33 PM
The press has looked at both sets of accusers and have decided that one group has credibility and the other group doesn't.
Sorry Mr. Young: Allen is screwed.
September 30, 2006 at 06:34 PM
Maestro: nail. on. head.
September 30, 2006 at 06:37 PM
Maestro- There are not two groups! So far only one person has stepped up against Webb, and he claimed it was learned in an interview with Webb, that he recorded, yet can not provide the recording. I'll be the first to bash Webb if someone more credible steps up, but that looks to have been a smear.
Not Larry Sabato |
September 30, 2006 at 06:42 PM
Style Weekly : The Real Jim Webb :
"Canonizing the hardscrabble independence of his Scots-Irish ancestors, Webb delivers a rhetorical punch at American elites that could have slipped from Allen’s own mouth. 'Even today, an individual and an issue at a time, it [the Scots-Irish culture] refuses to accept the politics of group privilege that have been foisted on America by its paternalistic, Ivy League-centered, media-connected, politically correct power centers,' he writes."
September 30, 2006 at 06:43 PM
Let's call it what it is: bigotry - not "racial insensitivity."
Why should we give Allen the benefit of political correctness, when he's done nothing mock the concept?
Big Picnic |
September 30, 2006 at 06:46 PM
How about the entire GOP leadership for Weenie of the week for protecting a pedophile.
It appears that dam well the entire GOP leadership knew about Foley and his pedophilia. Speaker Hastert, Majority Leader Boehner, National Republican Campaign Committee Chairman Tom Reynolds, Chairman of the House Page Board John Shimkus and Rodney Alexander (R-LA), the pages sponsor all knew about Foley's Impropriety.
The only Democrat on the House Page Board was not given the information.
September 30, 2006 at 06:51 PM
Maestro: "The press has looked at both sets of accusers and have decided that one group has credibility and the other group doesn't."
B-b-but that's the liberal media's take on it. They're out to get George Allen by only talking bad about him. It's not his fault, it's the media's.
/James Young manifesto
Not Ben |
September 30, 2006 at 06:54 PM
Blame everyone but Allen.
September 30, 2006 at 07:01 PM
Damn you liberals and your truth-based agenda!
GOP now stands for "Grand Old Pedophiles"
The Repedophilian Party
September 30, 2006 at 07:03 PM
Big Picnic, let's take it a step further...
Racisim: a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others
Bigotry: stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own
Not Huey Long |
September 30, 2006 at 07:08 PM
anon 6:43, that's a nice article. One false note, although it is small: Allen is not Scots-Irish (or if he is, it's an extremely tiny sliver)His ancestory on his father's side is Polish; they changed their name to Allen from something unpronouncable to the Anglo ear.
I have to agree with this part, somewhat ruefully;
"Reading “Born Fighting,” it’s hard to imagine Jim Webb agreeing with anyone, anywhere, 97 percent of the time."
Well, that's what we need. Somebody, ANYBODY, who can say NO once in awhile. And WON'T BACK DOWN.
September 30, 2006 at 07:10 PM
September 30, 2006 at 07:12 PM
pitin, I just read your nomination and agree 100%. I glanced at some of the 35 pages of obscene e-mails that old pervert wrote, and felt sickened. I couldn't get very far; it's not for the squeamish.
If I were one of those parents, I would take a horsewhip to the entire Republican leadership. They KNEW and they did NOTHING. And, please note, that these weren't anonymous kids--these were children they knew and saw on a regular basis. Their lack of action is malicious and criminal.
I would like someone to ask Allen what he thinks of this whole mess. He worked with Foley on this bill, after all. He brags that he is a great crusader against sexual predators of children. I would like to hear him defend the Republican leadership that endangered children for AN ENTIRE YEAR simply because their party was more important.
Jesus Christ, how do these people sleep at night?
September 30, 2006 at 07:19 PM
I would also like to point out that Alexander says that when he found out about the problem, went to the NRCC. Why? That's an election committee and entirely political--it has nothing to do (or should have nothing to do) with disciplinary or adminstrative matters in Congress.
So Alexander treated this as a POLITICAL problem. Everybody else seems to have done the same. The idea that this pederast was running around loose in a virtual candy store was, at best, of secondary importance to them.
This is a grotesque abuse of power. IMHO, the entire Republican leadership acted as accomplices in Foley's crimes and ought to be treated as such.
September 30, 2006 at 07:31 PM
Sorry about the Tech game, man. I am VERY nervous about the Buckeyes. Iowa's QB is pretty damn good.
I'm getting extra beer tonight.
September 30, 2006 at 07:37 PM
Here's a Shimkus quote:
Shimkus recalled that when he initially questioned Foley about the e-mails, the congressman assured him that he was "simply acting as a mentor" and that "nothing inappropriate had occurred."
Foley said he was e-mailing to find out if the teenager was OK after Hurricane Katrina and "wanted a photo to see that the former page was all right," Shimkus said.
How do these people sleep at night.
September 30, 2006 at 07:39 PM
What a revolting development this is!
September 30, 2006 at 08:04 PM
So, the GOP used to be the party of Privilege, Power and Pork. Now they've added Pedophilia to their list...
Hastert, DeLay and crew are starting to look like th Catholic Church - better to cover up displicable and illegal behavior than to actually do something about it that might have negative consequences to their institution/power base.
Not Representative Foley |
September 30, 2006 at 08:08 PM
We need a better picture of Siddarth. One where he's smiling.
Siddarth Matters Too! |
September 30, 2006 at 08:25 PM
What is up with this rumor that something really damaging is going to come out next week? Any truth to it?
September 30, 2006 at 08:33 PM
I think that's the same rumor as the one where George Allen opens his mouth next week. You're getting them confused.
September 30, 2006 at 08:37 PM
This one was not my call. This was Ben's. Mine was a lot more depressing.
September 30, 2006 at 08:41 PM
"It's hard to imagine a bigger weenie than that."
You said it. I'm hung like a $&^%&^%&
Felix Macacawitz |
September 30, 2006 at 08:46 PM
Jaime- *sob* thanks, I'm in a white liquor coma. It's a sad day in the burg, and my GA Tech friends are already harrassing me. I keep screaming 51-7 at them.
But, then again, at least no one here is a pedophile or covering up for one. Oh, and speaking of evil things, my cousin David is on Dateline tonight! He's the prosocuter in the "blood brothers" case. I'm hoping most crimes i.publix has committed are in Mass. too. Time to root against Miami in a few.
I have a feeling about 10 Republicans are going to resign next week- so who cares about football?
September 30, 2006 at 08:51 PM
Is there a Permaweenie Category??? Guess who gets my vote...
Evil Twin |
September 30, 2006 at 08:54 PM
A permawenie can be painful, or even cause death.
September 30, 2006 at 08:59 PM
Can we get a Bobbit for this week's weenie?
September 30, 2006 at 09:03 PM
Oh, Felix Macawitzm you ridiculous white supremacist, you!
Now if you don't mind, I'm off to a toga party.
September 30, 2006 at 10:23 PM
"The press has looked at both sets of accusers and have decided that one group has credibility and the other group doesn't."
Ah yes, the politically correct 89% pro-Clinton, liberal biased media has spoken and they are *never wrong*, they've got a story to tell and ... pay no attention to that smear job maker behind the curtain!
September 30, 2006 at 10:26 PM
Fox Allen interview available at
September 30, 2006 at 10:42 PM
I can't believe how the Republican machine believes if you say a lie enough time everyone believes it. Today's is:
The House page board looked into the Foley email matter and took action.
Um, no. John Shimkus brushed it under the carpet. Thanks for not letting the Democrat on the committee know and not having this sick congressman arrested and thrown out sooner.
September 30, 2006 at 10:50 PM
I just read some of the instant messages sent by the Congressman to the page. The guy was/is really a sicko! Much worse than what the press is portraying.
September 30, 2006 at 10:54 PM
NEW Washington Post article on George Allen. Looks like this will be on the front page of Sunday's paper!
September 30, 2006 at 11:10 PM
So.... why can't we get any of the big talkers like Shaun, Young, or I.Pubby to go on record like I asked? I mean, I though it was all smears, why is it so hard to just say unequivocally that Allen never used that word in a derogatory fashion and that all the accusations are lies?
Maybe you feel you've sort of implied enough of the sort on the issue before, but if so, let's just get it out one more time so as we're all very clear.
Come on: no dodging it: Allen didn't use the word, and all the accusations are lies, correct?
September 30, 2006 at 11:15 PM
When you guys attack with as much fervor a Klan MEMBER, then you can be taken seriously on issues of race. Until then, it may well be that most Virginia voters will recognize that it's just a club that you wield for electoral advantage.
And no one is defending Mark Foley. 'Course, if we followed the Democrat model on page-abusers, Foley could count on reelection, and having the GOP adopt mainstreaming his perversions in their platform in 20 or so years (see: Gerry Studds).
James Young |
September 30, 2006 at 11:18 PM
If Macaca was such a slur, why do y'all keep repeating it. it's not like we keep writing the Bomb. But y'all keep repeating that word. either it's a slur and no one should say it, or it's not, and you can repeat it over and over, which is it?
William Jackson |
September 30, 2006 at 11:25 PM
Anyone read the open letter Ken Shelton provided? It's quite convincing and sincere. I would encourage everyone to read it.
September 30, 2006 at 11:27 PM
Jackson, Macaque or "macaca" is a racial epithet for Arabs in French, Allen's mother's tounge. To Allen it means "sand nigger". To people who's mother is not a Tunisian French speaker, it's just like any other foreign word we don't completely understand. To us it's a topical word that Allen used to be mean, it's not a slur Americans typically use to denigrate Arabs or Asians or blacks. While the word may remain offensive in French, the American lexicon may record it as synonymous with "dumb politician". Example: "Felix Macacawitz". We use it an that sense.
September 30, 2006 at 11:44 PM
"'Course, if we followed the Democrat model on page-abusers"
What are you speaking of here James? Bob Packwood comes to mind for me but perhaps that's too long ago for you to remember.
What is the "Democrat Model" for page abusers?
Lowell Fulk |
October 01, 2006 at 12:14 AM
Allen isn't breaking 50 anyplace. Period. He's in it deep no matter what's happening elseware.
Not Rich Cranwell |
October 01, 2006 at 12:32 AM
LA Times OpEd : Allen's language is accidental :
October 01, 2006 at 12:48 AM
What a load of caca:
"In fact, the only issue is how many people are harmed by coming into contact with the word itself. This is exactly why Mark Twain is now viewed as one of the most insidious racists in American history."
Huck Finn is widely considered THE great American novel. Furthermore, it is one of the best picaresque novels in the entire history of the written word. The only people who would consider that novel racist are people who haven't read it or have the critical reading skills of carpet fuzz. The only people who would consider Mark Twain a racist are morons and moral inbreds looking for cover for their own stupidity and racism.
Huck Finn exposes racism and hypocrisy as a cancer on American society. Are you suggesting that when George Allen used that word, he was attempting to do the same thing?
Jesus Christ! What next?
October 01, 2006 at 01:25 AM
Hmm, James appears again, and yet... no straightforward on the record declaration about Allen telling the truth. Strange, no, for a man so passionate about this issue being a baseless smear to not lay that out clearly...
Does James know something the rest of us don't that makes him afraid to state loud and clear that Allen is telling the truth and all the others are lying or mistaken?
"When you guys attack with as much fervor a Klan MEMBER, then you can be taken seriously on issues of race."
You guys keep bringing this up, but anyone who knows anything about the situation knows that it's simply illogical. Byrd, UNLIKE ALLEN has come out, admitted to his past, apologized for it, and gone through the process of making amends. The one example you guys keep bringing up of his usage of the word characteristically falls apart on examination (just check wikipedia, a liar's worst enemy) I'm not sure why I should sit around defending Byrd, since he isn't Allen's opponent. But the reality is that if you want to compare Allen to Byrd, then Allen's next step is to admit to his past statements and acts and STOP CALLING PEOPLE LIARS for contradicting his own foolish claims.
October 01, 2006 at 02:24 AM
James says "no one is defending Mark Foley." No, only Dennis Hastert and the rest of the House Republican leadership, who covered up for Foley the past year. Oh, and then there's James himself, who makes excuses for the inexcusable all the time - as long the inexcusable behvavior - racism, deer heads, sadism, sexual predation on adolescent boys, spitting on women - is done by Republicans like George Allen. James is the ultimate, shamless hack. Or is that Shaun Kenney? Jim Riley? Dick Wadhams? Ed Gillespie? All of the above?
October 01, 2006 at 08:06 AM
LAS, the article was tounge in cheek.
October 01, 2006 at 10:26 AM
Lying to the voters is like s-o-o-o-o-o 2000. I want a man that tells the truth, and accepts responsibility for his actions.
Not Pam Anderson |
October 01, 2006 at 11:15 AM
Yes, anon 10:26 a.m., it was tongue-in-cheek; mea culpa, I quoted the wrong section.
The National Review's John Miller was NOT being tongue-in-cheek, however. (that's who I meant to quote.) I'm afraid I got all caught up in my defense of Mark Twain.
October 01, 2006 at 12:48 PM
why do peo insist on arguing with the rabid right as though they are reasonable?
October 01, 2006 at 12:48 PM
Has anybody claimed that Allen thought Sidarth was Latino, and was trying to address him genially as "muchacho"?
Not Petey Garland |
October 01, 2006 at 04:08 PM
1. If attempted, that would be GA's 43rd position on "macaca".
2. It would also be dangerously close to a Trett Lottian, "They all look alike to me."
October 01, 2006 at 05:29 PM
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