WEBB DEFEATS ALLEN

Projected at 11:37 p.m.  Jim Webb defeats George Allen.

Comments

[RichmondDem]

Huh?

[not gretchen bulova]

Absentee's woo!

[Marine Mom]

Is this for real????

[West AIlsworth]

please explain?!!?!

[Matt in VA]

WHOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Musa]

Please God!

[West AIlsworth]

I'm still seeing 49.50%/49.29% Allen

[lokiloki]

Agreed. Look at absentees outstanding.

[Marine Mom]

MSNBC still has Allen ahead.

[lokiloki]

50,000+ absentees outstanding from arlington county...

Absentees usually trend Republican.

[not gretchen bulova]

Most of the Republican counties have report absentee's.

FFX/Arlington/PWC/Loudoun have not reported their absentees

[Ghost of Henry Howell]

Ben:

You hit it. Webb wins by 2K, when Arl & Ffx absentees are counted.

Hallelujah!

[Not Larry Sabato]

Webb won. There will be a recount.

[RichmondDem]

Where are your numbers coming from Ben?

Yeah, absentees could do it. We'll have a recount either way, though.

[akaison]

they dont trend that republican in a democratic strong hould especially given the fact that as i undersstand lowell or soeone said that the dems had did a great job this year of getting absentees in dem strong holds- i still dont believe it though.

[Marine Mom]

Who projected this win?

[NotLarrySabato'sLawnboy]

boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[lokiloki]

this will help you understand why webb wins:

look at absentees:

http://www.sbe.state.va.us/web_docs/election/results/2004/nov2004/detail013.htm
http://www.sbe.state.va.us/web_docs/election/results/2004/nov2004/detail059.htm
http://www.sbe.state.va.us/web_docs/election/results/2004/nov2004/detail760.htm

[vikram]

CNN said the absentees have been counted!

Dems might still need a lawyer at every county courthouse in the state tomorrow morning. This is going to recount/court.

[Rob at Raising Kaine]

I think Ben might be right - absentees are the key.

[lokiloki]

look at absentee history for outstanding counties in the links i posted above... MOST GOP-leaning counties have COUNTED absentees already

[MasonLee]

Hope to God you're right.

forget CNN. I can't believe someone on a blog is citing MSM, especially CNN

[notroberthurt]

What about Prince William???

[lokiloki]

CNN doesnt know crap.

11:47 - Webb down by 3,000 votes.

[Sam]

As a Fairfax County Democrat in college, I was mailed, by the Fairfax County Democratic Committee, an absentee ballot application without requesting one a bit over a week before I left for college this year. I've heard of others who did the same. I think the Dems had a GREAT absentee apparatus in Fairfax County this year.

[Virginia Centrist]

I'm with you ben. I've got him up in the end (extrapolating using 2005 absentee ballot numbers) by about 5000 votes.

[akaison]

according to lowell or someone else who diaried this issue on either raising kaine or d kos- a week or so ago- the things about absentee ballots for dems is true. i still will believe it when i see it.

11:49 Absentees in Fairfax still not counted.

[novamiddleman]

I think Ben just wanted to use the graphic :P

Thanks for knocking him out of the presidential race

Hopefully the RPV will finally see the writing on the wall and adjust with their favorite son hanging on by a thread

[Bwana]

Shoot, my gut instinct called this one hours ago...

[lokiloki]

tradesports now has webb winning :)

[jape]

You are a god Ben. A geek god.

Whooooooo !!!! Webb !!!!

[Mr. Ugly]

Tonight is why bourbon & cigarettes were invented. Will someone please tell us why Pr Wm is only reporting 29 out of 67?

[Musa]

WEBB IS LEADING! WEBB IS LEADING! YES!

What is Tradesports call?

[not gretchen bulova]

CNN saying Webb up!

[lokiloki]

dems will win senate. you heard it here first.

[Doug]

Shit, I quit smoking years ago. Can someone give me a smoke?

[RichmondDem]

My God I can't believe this!

[lokiloki]

last tradesports for DEM win in VA was 64

God damn if Jim Webb is going to pay for a landslide. Jim's going right a tight budget when he gets downtown.

[akaison]

musa- link?

[West AIlsworth]

not sure what yall are looking at....

http://sbe.virginiainteractive.org/index.htm

still seeing Webb down on the official Virginia site

[Jason]

CNN has Webb leading by 2500 votes, SBE hasn't changed

[RichmondDem]

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/pages/results/states/VA/

Webb up!

[Matt]

Please fucking god come true!

[briefman]

Allen should do the honorable thing and concede.

[Musa]

99% COUNTED

Webb - 50%

Allen - 49%

CNN AND MSNBC

REMANINING PRECINCTS ARE IN ARLINGTON, RICHMOND VOTE PUT WEBB OVER THE TOP!

CNN has Webb up 2376 with 99%,
absentees must be coming in.

[Jim]

the myth about absentees not being counted until the following day is not true. From what I gather, the absentee ballots are counted on election day. I hope i am wrong.

[lokiloki]

shit... allen now back up

[Jason]

SBE 99.1% reporting - Allen winning

UPSET !!!!!! WHOOO !!!!!

[lokiloki]

99.1% reporting... allen up by 1500 votes

[vikram]

CNN count has webb up!

[Mr. Ugly]

Will somebody who knows something please look at Pr Wm before I piss my pants? I see the likely lead for Webb in Arlington, Fairfax & Loudoun, but it could turn to shit in a heartbeat in Pr Wm.

[Ben]

awesome job ben you called the number 20 mins before CNN!

[Musa]

Jim Webb (DEM) 1,141,052 49%
George Allen (REP)* 1,138,676 49%

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14188268/

They're ahead of SBE!

How can CNN have him up if the SBE numbers havent been updated. Gee, maybe it's wishful thinking on their part.

[Mason Conservative]

sbe has Allen still up

http://sbe.virginiainteractive.org/index.htm

[lokiloki]

still outstandign ballots from dem counties... webb will win

[Jason]

Musa - SBE shows another 1000 for Allen than that, but 4000 less for Webb. Probably somewhere inbetween

Please stop looking at CNN and MSNBC - and comparing to SBE. Look at one but not all three. In the end they will agree. They get the same data from the same places but in different sequences. That explains the variances.

FFX 3 precincts missing at SBE.

Fox has Webb up by 3K+.

[Marine Mom]

My local news is at the Webb party and they said he is now ahead.You could hear all of the screams .They also said that Allen isn't talking to anyone.

[not gretchen bulova]

Mr. Ugly - Webb won Prince William but 2500 votes. Absentees yet to be counted

[West AIlsworth]

glad I bought beer before midnight

[lokiloki]

something is weird... cnn has web/allen at 141/138 and sbe has web/allen at 137/139... what is up with that?!?!

[Jason]

MSNBC, Fox and CNN are all using AP numbers, they'll have the same figures.

CNN must have the AP reporter at FFX board of elections. right?

[Jason]

lokiloki - they're counting from different areas, AP reporters at precincts are getting some results before SBE and vice versa.

[Jim]

I said about two hours ago that Allen was running out of GOP counties and his lead was not enough.

Lawyers at every BOE in the morning. Defend this Webb victory !!!!

C'mon people -- you are comparing apples to oranges because of timing. AP collects data and reports it -- same data SBE gets but maybe faster (and perhaps less reliable). So please quit trashing the thread by comparing one to another

[Bwana]

Going to bed. Webb wins...and when the absentee totals come in it may push the margin outside of automatic recount territory.

[Jason]

SBE is probably the more accurate.

[Jason]

WTOP news quoted the SBE numbers.

[West AIlsworth]

agreed...I'm not sure how anyone could have better info that the SBE website

***hoping I'm wrong***

this is what i dont get....in COMPARING SBE and MSNBC...MSNBC is indicating that Allen lost votes based on what SBE has...SBE has him at 1.39, MSNBC at 1.38....

[vikram]

All precincts left are Dem precincts

now 1.41. to 1.39....

yet MSNBC and CNN still saying 1.38?? how is this possible?

[kai]

1500 votes. unbelievable.

[RichmondDem]

What in the hell accounts for the difference between the SBE and the AP? They are both at 99% and they have opposite results.

1.41 being Allen....

My head is going to explode.

C'mon people -- you are comparing apples to oranges because of timing. AP collects data and reports it -- same data SBE gets but maybe faster (and perhaps less reliable). So please quit trashing the thread by comparing one to another

Posted by: | November 08, 2006 at 12:02 AM

[Jason]

SBE reports them as the precincts tell them. AP reports them as the precincts tell them. AP's had some results before SBE and vice versa. It'll all balance out, just watch the SBE site.

[pol]

I'm looking at the SBE nos. and it looks like a lot of Prince William has not been reported. We saw a major turnout at my precinct (McCoart) today. We averaged about 170 per hour. There were countless people who said, "I'll take one of those Democratic ballots. I'm going to fire some people."

[Veritas]

sbe has allen up, with more than the webb lead on cnn, with 99.18% reporting
http://sbe.virginiainteractive.org/index.htm

Jason, i agree...but SBE has Allen @ 1.41....not 1.38

[College Student in the 757]

It ain't over til' it's over, ya'll.

haha

[ifthethunderdontgetya]

I wonder if the greens will figure out that they are nothing more than Republican enablers.

Nah. Never happen.

[Mason Conservative]

so have the absentee votes been counted or not?

[Jim]

This doesn't make sense. I would think SBE would be "more" accurate.