JAY O'BRIEN'S GAY BAITING

Disgusting Flyer.

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Republicans, the party of:

Gay bashing!
Muslim bashing!
Hispanic bashing!
Jew bashing!
Women bashing!
Foreigner bashing!
Children bashing!
Family bashing!

What a great party, how do I join?!?

[Not Harry F. Byrd, Sr.]

When you don't have a positive record of accomplishment to run on what else are you going to do?

[Church Hill Dem]

I think even the most homophobic voter could see that O'Brien is taking Barker's comments out of context.

When are these Repubs gonna learn that last minute "my opponent loves gays" is a recipe for failure?

[Not Jim Moran]

So baiting of blacks and Jews is still OK, as long as you and your "pal Joey" do it, right?

[Tatum]

When will Barker get it? The Constitution outlines 3 basic functions of government.
1 - promote gay hatred
2 - go to war
3 - cut taxes.

Jesus wouldn't have signed it if anything else had been in it.

[LM]

Tatum -- that's funny, and absolutely right, according to some people I know...

[Tatum]

Yeah. I saw a documentary on Fox History.

[factchecker]

Not Jim Moran:

Moran is not on the ballot this year... O'Brien IS. O'Brien gay-baited THIS YEAR and made a conscious decision to do so based on willful misreading of statements out of context. This is not based on issues or ideology or the merits of sound policy, or even a record of accomplishment, all of which are legit campaign considerations. O'Brien's flyer is instead founded on shameless, crass political opportunism...

The voters will have their chance to register their opinions of Jim Moran next year. But this year it is our turn to render our verdict on Jay O'Brien. For one I say it is time to send Jay O'Brien home to show that demogoguery does not pay!

[Donkey Breath]

Well now. Isn't it interesting that about the same time this flyer was going out, BVBL posted a "funny" picture of George taken at the Equality Fairfax candidate forum and James Young linked to it and accused George of supporting the "radical homosexual agenda". And when I called them on playing the gay smear card James tried to change the subject and branded me a liar. Just a coincidence, or a coordinated gay-baiting campaign among Greg, James and O'Brien?? Reeks of Karl Rove/Bob Marshall/Victoria Cobb tactics...

[LAS]

Is hate all these people have? Have they no shame? Have they no decency?

"Is hate all these people have? Have they no shame? Have they no decency?"

Answers: Yes. No. No.

[Rtwng Extrmst]

I know this will fall on deaf ears..., but there is no "gay baiting" as far as I can see in the material. O'Brien rightly raises the question as to whether government funds should be used to promote a lifestyle to a captive and impressionable audience in the schools that many parents may disagree with.

We all know that any truly open discussion of homosexuality in the schools would never be allowed under such a program. Anything short of a discussion that shows it in a "positive light" would be disdained as "hatred" by the administrators who are chained to the political correctness crowd. Much like many of the comments here above.

When will you all learn that disagreement and a desire not to use public finding for controversial issues in the public schools does not equate with "hatred" and "bashing"?

If a true open and honest discussion of the subject at an appropriate age were indeed to be allowed, I think far fewer pepole would have an issue with it, including Jay O'Brien. Unfortunately based on past attempts including some of the comments of George Barker I see, this kind of common-sense and judgement-free approach would never be considered.

[Equal Justice Supporter]

It looks like Delegate Ebbin's PAC is raising money to fend the anti-gay extremists off. https://secure.actblue.com/page/stopjayobrien

I believe his Virginia Progress Fund PAC was the largest contributor in the race to defeat Dick Black in 2005.

https://secure.actblue.com/page/stopjayobrien

[James Young]

So, Donkey Breath, you've decided to spread your damnable lies here, too. You must be one of the consultants advising this reckless and dishonest course. Good pseudonym. Obviously, the moonbats that the Move-On Dems have foisted upon Virginians are largely afraid to reveal their true intentions to the electorate, so instead, they offer only attacks.

Here's what you said at BVBL: "Seriously, Jay and James Young and Greg must be getting real worried about George’s campaign for Senate if they are pulling out their favorite smear tactic this late in the game. When in trouble, play the gay card. Sorry boys, won’t work this time."

The readers should know that he cast his aspersion in a thread IN WHICH I HAD NOT EVEN PARTICIPATED!?!?! I had, however, posted a link in which I noted that "Apparently one reason why George Barker's only campaign strategy is to attack Jay O'Brien for one minor and utterly fixable misstep [i.e., his vote in favor of Governor Timmy's! imposition of abusive driver fees only on Virginia drivers] is because, in addition to being an advocate for socialized medicine, Barker is a proud advocate for the radical homosexual agenda" --- as evidenced by his comments at the forum (Greg reported that Barker had said "he would support Gay Marriage at the Equality Fairfax debate. George said he would support legislation to create Gay-Straight alliances in high schools").

I responded by noting at BVBL that "I’ll respond a little more directly: Seriously, Donkey Breath must be a moron if he believes that it’s a 'smear tactic' to identify someone as an advocate for the radical homosexual agenda. If identifying someone’s agenda to mainstream perverse behavior is a 'smear,' then perhaps it is a 'perverse' political position to hold.

"If, on the other hand, you are suggesting that I am calling or have called Barker a homosexual (I do not speak for Greg or JL), then you, sir, are a damnable liar. I don’t know enough about Barker to speak to the issue one way or the other (I believe that I have heard that he is married), and unlike many, I try very hard not to pontificate with certitude about things about which I am ignorant.

"Perhaps you should read what I have said before you engage in your 'smear tactic' (whether it is your favorite or not, I am not in a position to comment)."

That is not "chang[ing] the subject." It is refutation of your ridiculous misrepresentations. Point. By. Point.

I fully expect Ben to attack the tactics of his fellow Dems when he leaves Full Partisan mode when this election is over .... and the electorate imposes upon them the terrible consequences of serial lies.

[Donkey Breath]

James, You are the master of smear spin, aren't you? You know exactly what I meant in the original post and you did try to change the subject to make you the victim by suggesting I might be saying you were calling Barker gay. I never implied that and you know it but by throwing it out there so you could deny it and call ME the liar is just priceless. And cheesey. And certainly your style.

I notice too you don't even defend yourself from the accusation that I did make that you and Greg were maybe part of a coordinated attack of gay related lies about Barker for and/or with O'Brien. Gee, a post and a link long after the EF event that is published at the same time an attack piece is sent out in the district...Just proves the original point that you and your right wing buddies play the gay card every chance you get in these races. You are obsessed with this thing you made up and call the radical homosexual agenda and you just can't help yourself. Which makes you even big loser than Jay.

Heeee Hawwww

[James Young]

"Donkey Breath," you're pathetic. But I repeat myself. "Coordinated attack"?!?!? I have spoken to NO ONE in the O'Brien Campaign, save for Jay himself, for weeks. I don't even read his campaign e-mails. And my comments to him on that occasion had nothing to do with Barker's comments endorsing the radical homosexual agenda, of which I was not even aware at the time. It had more to do with Barker's sleazy, dishonest television ads. Your conspiracy-theory fantasies simply have no basis in truth. Of course, your current claim that this is what you intended is nowhere stated, and is not even implied, in your original comment. Presumably, a reader with enough competence to come across your comment is competent enough to recognize that fact.

I saw Greg's story. I put it in context. The context that Barker is such a radical that he has to hide his true agenda behind sleazy, dishonest, one-issue television ads ("That's all we need to know").

As for whether you "might be saying that [I was] calling Barker gay," you accused me of a "smear." In context, that was all that you COULD have meant (though why an advocate for the radical homosexual agenda such as yourself would consider that a "smear" is curious indeed), since the only thing that I did do was identify truthfully Barker's position on an issue, which cannot, by hypothesis, be a "smear."

And awwwww, "Donkey Breath" calls me a "loser." As opposed to whom? Someone so irrelevant and cowardly that he posts under a pseudonym?

You really just make it up as you go along, don't you?

Speaking of the "radical homosexual agenda," James Young really needs to read Wonkette.

http://wonkette.com/politics/larry-craig-sex-exclusive%21/exclusive-i-had-sex-with-larry-craig-314897.php

Promotion of the homosexual lifestyle does not belong in public schools. Period.

[George]

It never ceases to amaze me that most the most uninformed of individuals always seem to find courage in anonymous name calling whenever someone does not agree with their point of view.

Are the merits of any argument you might have regarding an issue so thin that they might buckle under the slightest scrutiny? Is the purpose of the name calling to deflect from any analysis of your opinions or is it an attempt to sidetrack debate because of your fear of inadequacy?

You remind me of the child on the playground who punches his classmate then runs to hide behind the skirt of the teacher, trembling that the truth might come forward or that he may be found later without security.

Having read the flyer in question, I see that it is filled with accounts of Mr. Barkers past statements. If he dos not hold these positions then you should argue on his behalf. If he does and you agree with him argue that point, but the childish name calling is really petty and useless. Stand up like a man, debate your points without fear, if you feel you can.

[Tobias Jodter]

I'm confused. Does George Barker actually support GLBT lifestyles being taught in the public schools????? If so, WHY is it a problem with pointing that out? How is that hateful? I saw NOTHING in the flyer that was bashing anyone.

[LAS]

You guys are going to have to explain to us EXACTLY what you mean by "promoting" GBLT lifestyles.

At the present time, most public high schools in the county have a gay-straight alliance club. Is that "promoting?" Would you like to abolish such organizations?

Public school kids are taught in health class that there is such a thing as homosexuality. They are not taught that it is evil. Is that "promoting?"

[LAS]

You know, that gay-hating, secretly-gay Republican has become such a cliche--seriously, are there any gay-bashing Republicans out there who AREN'T gay themselves?--that you would think all Republicans would just shut up about it for their own good.

For example, George, when you advise someone to "stand up like a man" I want to ask, "do you mean, take a wide stance?"

You're just making it too easy for us. Frankly, you've become little more than a joke, fodder for endless Wonkette postings and SNL skits.

LAS, if public schools teach about homosexuality, but leave out the little part about it being abnormal, then they're promoting it.

[Donkey Breath]

And this is why I so enjoy these blogs. Doesn't take much to get James and his boyfriends worked up into a lather...mention his name and BAM, he's there. Takes the freakin bait EVERYTIME. His own personal circle jerk..Talk about pathetic. (Donkey Breath snorts and laughs into his cereal). What a bunch of foot tappers...
;-)

PS: And like everyone doesn't already know who Donkey Breath is...HEEEE HAWWW

PPS: And just for the record, the candidate forum remarks made by Barker are on tape and available at the Equality Fairfax website..go listen for yourself and see who the real liars are.. and while you are there, you might listen to Rust, Hunt and Devolites-Davis (all republicans) also embrace the radical homosexual agenda... guess that makes JMDD a fag hag??

[David]

How ignorant of the law are James and Greg and their other prurient friends, anyway? Family Life Education is mandated by state code, and parents can opt-out if they so choose.

"Legislation to create Gay-Straight Alliances" is an even more hilarious fabrication. Are you boys not familiar with federal equal access law? Here's a clue: It's what protects the right of students to have Bible study clubs. Students have exactly the same right, no more, no less, to have Gay-Straight Alliances. No legislation needed.

You boys become more desperate by the hour.