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Sean Holihan

Conservatives: Teaching their children to hate since 1780.

Andrew Nelson

That's one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time.

55

Gay marriage:

Bringing down death and destruction on society since Sodom and Gomorrah :)

liberals: Teaching other peoples children to hate since they became confused about right and wrong.

t

Praise God, we are going to put homo marriage out of business once and for all.

Four demons in a robe tried to destroy marriage.

Now God's people are going to restore marriage to what God intended.

Praise the Lord.

Grapes

The passage of Prop 8 will be the biggest setback to the gay rights movement in two decades.

Good.

I know I'm probably going to start a s**t storm here, but exactly how does a gay civil union or marriage hurt a solid heterosexual one? I've been married for 25 years, and I'm really not threatened by anyone else's relationship.

John

Best quote ever on gay marriage from Fred Thompson: "Hell, I think we should let gays get married. Then they'll be just as miserable as the rest of us."

Sean Holihan

Y'know, I've been in a monogomous relationship with my partner for almost eight years now--since I was 19.

We're completely happy. How does this have any effect upon anyone else's life, exactly?

John

The problem Sean is that some people still view gay marriage the way many people viewed interracial marriage 40 years ago - for some reason (most likely the Bible) they feel it's unnatural. I think the correct first step is to allow civil procedures. Give folks all the legal rights. Then we can start calling it "marriage" in 10-15 years when the old, conservative folk have either passed on or given in. People like t and Grapes will always be a problem, but eventually they won't have much company. This is one of those issues that will just take time.

Grapes

We were losing in the polls a few weeks ago. Then we started running the ads with the kids. That was a great strategy.

Bingo.

Not Wayne Rooney

That is the gayest thing I have seen in a long time. I will bet $20 that boy is the biggest flaming queen in about 20 years.

James Young

Well, Anon 6:20 and Sean, it's nice to see that you got the talking points down pat. Of course, it doesn't so much as "hurt," "threaten," or "have any effect" on someone else's life as it denigrates the language, and seeks societal approval for relationships condemned by virtually every civilized society for 5000 years.

I'll pose to you an opposing question: why aren't queens satisfied with achieving rights to inheritance, medical decisionmaking, and other "benefits" of marriage through contract? After all, that's usually what they talk about, and most of those things could be obtained in that manner.

The dirty little secret --- not so secret, to anyone who's paying attention --- is that partisans for the radical homosexual agenda aren't looking for "equality" so much as they are looking for "approval." Equality they have. They have the same right to marry a person of the opposite sex that everyone else has. What they don't have is the right to redefine a word to give a false impression. "Approval" is what they desperately crave --- it's probably a part of the homosexual pathology --- and something to which they are decidedly NOT entitled.

John

James - seems that you are radical, not Sean and others like him. There is no "radical" homosexual agenda. There also was no "radical" civil rights agenda in the 1960s. These are instead inherent arguments about moral identity. Gays and lesbians don't crave approval - they crave the ability to be accepted as any other human being is. It's your loss that you're unwilling to grant that to them.

I assume you remember that one of the heroes of the 9/11 flight that crashed in PA was a gay man. I'm sure there are countless gay heroes that serve in the miliaty - Don't Ask, Don't Tell be damned.

I don't understand why people like you James have such a need to draw lines in the sand. Were you one of the popular kids in high school - perhaps a frat guy in college - and now you still have your own need for approval?

All gay people want is to be one of the crowd - and it's shameful that weak-minded folks like you push back against that.

Sean Holihan

"queens"

Nice, James. Very nice. I've been called many things in my life, but never a queen.

You demean your own argument by making yourself seem like a hateful, foolish child.

James Young

You're funny, John. "All gay people want is to be one of the crowd," yet it is they who set themselves apart by publicizing their bedroom perversions. It's "shameful" that you're so far gone that you can't even tell the difference. "Weak-minded," indeed!

Nearly as funny is your amateur psychoanalysis. But it's of a piece with your attempt to make a phony distinction between "approval" and to "be accepted as any other human being is." What is that distinction, exactly?

Pathetic.

And Sean, I'm far beyond the point where people who, not only ignore moral distinctions, but have demonstrated themselves incapable of even recognizing them wound me by declaring me "hateful." And "foolish"? From someone who publicizes his sexual perversions!?!?!? Oh, that's rich. Thanks for the best laugh I've had all day.

Tom

I wonder how Grandma and Grandpa feel about this video. You know, the ones who were confined in the California camps during World War II?

Sean Holihan

James, you can keep your schoolyard taunts.

Instead, I'll just watch as the Democratic party makes historic gains across America because your party has increasingly marginalized itself by only caring about divisive social issues.

You can have Jeff Fredrick and Bob Marshall. I'll take Mark Warner and Jim Webb.

Sean,

I'm with you.

Where did the video go?

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