JEFF FREDERICK OUSTED

Oust Jeff:  57
Keep Jeff: 18

That's 3/4th of the vote.  Jeff is gone.

McDonnell supporters blocked one proxy from voting who was for Jeff, while allowing 9 proxy votes who were in favor of ousting Jeff.  This combined with an abstention of one Frederick supporter running the meeting tipped the balance.

Using a majority of votes to exclude some votes- allow others- and tip the balance?!?!  This is Bob McDonnell's Republican Party!?!?

APPEAL THIS TO THE CONVENTION JEFF!!!

UPDATE:  Spank That Donkey Has More.

Comments

[PWConservative]

The proxy was given to a person not from the SCC member's district, I know You liberals will lie to attempt to divide Our Party.

[Not Barack Obama]

You're right...we liberals will do that...and MORE! We're going to start taking your guns! And your wives! And force them to become lesbians! Then we will indoctrinate you in our FEMA Concentration camps as Atheists or you will be forced to pay 100% taxes to our new Socialist Regime. Well I'm glad a clever conseravative like you has figured us out. Thank Allah, George Bush left us all these wiretapping powers to find you or else this would be a lot harder...well by the power of Marx...

Not Barack Obama awayyyyyyyyyyyyyy....

[Loudoun Insider]

That's simply sour grapes from the loons. If the proxy didn't meet the rules, it wasn't valid. Frederick can't just pick what aspects of the party plan that help him, while ignoring all others.

[Spank That Donkey]

Hey PW:
If you would have been given the proxy and were known to vote for ouster... think there would have been an issue?

[CarolineProgressive]

Jeff Frederick was Virginia's little slice of Palin-esque incompetence/hilarity. He will be greatly missed.

[Larry Sabato's Hairpiece]

Spank:

The rules are the rules. Jeff knew them going in. All this shows is that he is so utterly inept he cannot even get his proxies straight. No wonder he proved to be completely incompetent at helming the party.

Stop whining. The rules don't get to be changed because the player screwed up. Sour grapes. Believe me that if it was the other way neither you nor Frederick would have ruled it as close enough for horseshoes or whatever.

Frederick bobbled the ball. Waaaahhhhh. We'll call the Waaaahhhhmbulance for you. If this is the conspiracy...that SCC would not bend the rules to fix yet another Frederick screw up...the pro-Frederick people will have redefined the term desperation.

[Loudoun Insider]

Just another lonely boy with a man/boy-crush on Frederick. I can really think of no other explanation.

[Not Einstien]

I suppose some of JFreds fans actually think he is a man of strong Conservative beliefs fighting to support those beliefs in his role as the R-Chairman. Others see him for what he is: an inept political hack who has never held a job outside of political circles who is fighting to enhance his meal ticket. A former Delegate, former four year Va R-Chairman....just think of the consultant fees he could bill those wannabe Delegates, School Board members & such. The only difference between him & the other hacks is he just got more greedy.

[Spank That Donkey]

BS... LSH.. and you know it. The SCC has never allowed a proxy like that?

LI:
You're obviously anonymous because you aren't man enough run your mouth to some one's face.

You come from a blog (TC)discredited for making up comments to build readership... You know the same top blogger for McDonnell now...

What else needs to be said?

[Loudoun Insider]

STD (is that your real name?), I've run my mouth to plenty of people to their faces. Ask around in Loudoun.

All that other stuff happened before I was ever a part of TC, when Vincent was quite young. At least we get comments, unlike your hack site!

[NotHerbertStemple]

What was the basis for denying the proxy? I thought the SCC member was Mickey Mixon from the 6th Congressional District and the proxyholder was the Bath County committee chair--and Bath County is in the 6th Congressional. The party plan only requires that the proxyholder be from the same constituency as the member he's replacing (i.e., a proxy for the CR chair has to be a CR; a proxy for a congressional district member has to be from the same congressional district; a proxy for a House or Senate rep must be from the House or Senate).

[Roanoke Republican]

Mickey's seat only covers the Roanoke Valley (Roanoke City, Roanoke County and Salem). To carry a proxy you have to be eligible to hold the seat and Andy Jones is not eligible to hold the seat. Therefore, his proxy was denied. FWIW, some people who voted FOR Jeff voted against Andy's proxy.

[J. Tyler Ballance]

I can't imagine why anyone under fifty would support the Republicans after seeing how they stabbed Jeff Frederick in the back.

The May Convention must reinstate Jeff Frederick. The SCC really showed how sleazy they are. Why should any of their insider nominees, such as McDonnell and Bolling, receive the support of the rank and file?

I have always found Jeff Fredrick to be an honest man who was deeply committed to ensuring that RPVA nomination contests would be run fairly while he was Chairman. It is obvious that those who prefer to rig nominations in the backrooms needed to get Jeff out of their way.

The citizens need to rise-up and reclaim the GOP, or face the reality that the Republican State Central is rotten to its core, and walk away, leaving the RPVA as nothing but a fetid corpse.

[PWConservative]

STD

Yes it would be an issue.

[thoughtful conservative]

it is unfortunate this type of thing happens when all conservatives really need to do is hold true to their values and let the liberals implode.

typical of republicans to shoot themselves in the foot for absolutely no reason and give away the high ground.

[NotHerbertStemple]

Roanoke Republican, there is nothing in the party plan about dividing congressional district SCC memberships that way.

[Stonewall Brigade]

It is in the 6th district plan as was explained by the members from that district at the meeting, come on it got 63 votes.

[Not Hussein]

The loss of Frederick is a sad day for Virginia Democrats. Maybe Tim Murtagh, Ken Hutcheson, or Tucker Watkins can take their record of recent electoral success to lead RPV.

One can dream, anyway...

[I.Publius]

How hilarious is this? Liberals and one Frederick lapdog are bashing the RPV for... wait for it... it's a shocker.... you'll never believe it...

Following rules and principles.

And it's not surprising at all that liberals and a Frederick lapdog would place no value on those things.

[Tom Paine]

Quote from allegedly "thoughtful conservative":

"it is unfortunate this type of thing happens when all conservatives really need to do is hold true to their values and let the liberals implode."

FACT:

Quote: "Roanoke Red Zone
Wednesday, October 29, 2008
P. S. You're Fired
I know I said I was leaving the blogging world but I had to put up this one last post.

Tonight I got an email from the Secretary of Roanoke County Republican Committee. I was informed that I would be removed as a member of the committee if I didn't attend a meeting of the committee tomorrow night. Are you kidding me! Less than one week before an election you issue this threat in order to have warm bodies at a meeting. This party that I have been a part of since I was 10 years old has been imploding for two years and this just shows it continues."

[Brian W. Schoeneman]

Even if the issue with the proxy was handled incorrectly, and I don't believe it was, it would not have affected the outcome of the vote. Frederick needed 20 votes. He got 18.

As someone under 50 in the Republican Party I am happy to see common sense and pragmatism prevail. I hope Frederick recognizes the damage he's already done to the party and will not put the party through the another costly fight.

[NotHerbertStemple]

Brian, Morton Blackwell, who was pro-Frederick, abstained. The rejected proxy holder was also pro-Frederick. That's two more votes for Frederick. 18+2=20.

[Bruce]

Why did Blackwell abstain?

As for the Proxy debate, this is actually another example of Frederick wanting to do things his way, regardless of what the rules say.

If the rules say you must get Central Committee approval for certain expenses, then that's what you must do.

If local rules break their Central Committee Membership into districts, then proxies must come from those "districts."

It seems Frederick did not take the time or effort to learn the "boring details" of the job - just liked the glamour. That is probably why he couldn't even organize 25% of the Party's leadership - elected by the most conservative elements of the party at grassroots conventions - to support him.

BTW, I do find it funny that he had the 'grassroots' in his belief, but that this was organized by party insiders. In the 11th CD, for example, our 'party insiders' are WAY MORE CONSERVATIVE than our party as a whole.

Does anyone really think David Ray would win a counyt-wide primary in Fairfax? He is a good man and a dedicated party man, but his views are very conservative and he would be unlikely to appeal to mainstream voters. I think he would probably agree with this assessment. Yet he and his ticket beat another very conservative candidate for Central Committee - former School Board Member Steve Hunt - in the election for Central Committee at the 11th Convention. Why? Because the conservative activists picked their team over a team that included people who could actually be elected in the county and were backed by many Tom Davis supporters.

This is another funny fact - why do people think Tom Davis can control the Central Committee statewide when his own ticket can't even win in his congressional district?

[Loudoun Insider]

It's the same way in the 10th. The elected SCC members could never win a general election.

[Freddie]

It's the same think in the 8th district. The elected SSC members cannot win public office. One of them actually tried and failed.