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Brian W. Schoeneman

Mo, Mo, Mo. The decade is over tonight. Don't let the millennial thing confuse you. Good piece!

VA Blogger

Brian, the decade is from 2001 - 2010. There was no year "zero". The decade may be over tonight in spirit, but it's not over in reality.

Tim Murtaugh

Mo -

I don't dispute your list. I can't help but think that you and I were both there for most of those things.

Happy New Year, and all the best.

See you on the trail ahead.

Tim Murtaugh

twitter.com/MoElleithee

Tim --

We're 2-2 against each other this decade! Looking forward to breaking the tie in the next!

Happy New Year!

Tim Murtaugh

You bastard!

You know I dispute that one loss you consistently tag me with! That should not count against my record.

Anyhow, I know you just like to push that button.

On a more serious note, I see that you included Emily Couric's death on your list.

Having been the Richmond reporter for WVIR-TV out of Charlottesville while she was a state senator, I grew to know Emily quite well.

She was one of my favorites, and I came to view her as a dear friend.

I was very saddened by her untimely -- and rapid, as it turned out -- death.

She was a dignified and impressive woman. I liked her a lot. We all miss her.

Not everything has to be partisan. Friends are friends.


Brian W. Schoeneman

VAB, the decade is from 2000 to 2009. The zero counts for decades, it doesn't count for centuries or millenia. There is always a "zero" year in decades. The 60s didn't start in 1961. The decade's over tonight.

Steve Vaughan

I'm also glad you included the item about Sen. Couric.
I'm not sure I think you're item #1 was as significant as you do. Given the mess Gilmore had made and the campaign Mark Warner ran, Early wasn't going to win in 2001 with or without porn money.

Jared

That's item number 11, not 1; they appear in descending order.

What's with the red text for Hitler, though? I get that a Republican invoked the name, but since the convention on this blog is to use red and blue text to identify a person's political party, implying that Hitler was a Republican, or Republican-like, is rather inappropriate, don't you think?

Not Larry Sabato

How can you be 2-2 vs. Tim when you were 0-3 this year?

Not Larry Sabato

Jared- Adolf Hitler ad is in red- not just his name.

Steve Vaughan

I think he's talking head to head matchups, NLS.

Steve Vaughan

Jared: yeah, that's what I meant. I just don't think that's important enough to make the list at all. The Jeff Frederick saga isn't on the list and that's certainly a more important political story from the last ten years.

Tim Murtaugh

I can answer that, NLS:

I was press secretary on Allen 2000 Senate race. Mo worked for Chuck Robb.

(Murtaugh 1-0)

I was working at the RNC in 2001, when they sent us down to Virginia in the final month to help Mark Earley (This is the disputed result between Mo and me, because I was not full-time on the campaign).

(My count, Murtaugh still ahead 1-0)

2005, Mo and I were on opposite sides of the Virginia governor's race. Obviously, he won that one.

(Murtaugh/Elleithee 1-1)

2009, McDonnell v. Deeds.

(Murtaugh back up 2-1)

Not Larry Sabato

Tim- weren't you RPV this cycle? Mo was a consultant for the statewide coordinated campaign in addition to his Deeds duties. Sounds like 1-4 to me, with you ahead.

Tim Murtaugh

Well, I guess it depends how you define it.

Yes, I was at RPV. My main focus was the governor's race, but I also played in the LG race and the AG race, plus a number of House races.

If you want to credit me with the six-seat pickup in the House, plus the statewide sweep, then I will take it.

j

Don't they both ge losses in 2006 since Elleithee worked for Harris Miller and Murtaugh worked for George Allen?

Tim Murtaugh

In reality, though, everything flowed out of the McDonnell campaign. They were so excellent and disciplined that it was tough to go wrong if you just stuck to their message.

Of course, I was "bad cop" to their "good cop."

It would be at this point that I give large credit -- to Bob McDonnell, of course -- but also to my good friends Phil Cox and Tucker Martin.

They ran a brilliant campaign.

It was relatively easy to follow their lead.

Not Larry Sabato

I won't tag Mo with the house losses since he probably doesn't know the names of people who lost. :-)

twitter.com/MoElleithee

Ben, you sure you want to play this game, given your record of endorsements this cycle? :-)

Tim Murtaugh

I was Thelma Drake's campaign manager in 2006.

twitter.com/MoElleithee

Steve -- I think the Frederick saga is an excellent addition to the list. And while I agree that Warner was likely to win in 2001 anyway, I do think the porn scandal was a turning point in the conventional wisdom.

Not JFred

Sorry, but I think you've missed the Number One Political Story of the Decade.

As much as I hate the way they raise rumor to the level of fact, the number one story was ...

The rise of political blogging.

Not A Virginia State Senator

Good Post Mo

Brian

While the "Macaca Moment" did not seal Sen. Allen's loss, he would not have lost had he not said it. Macaca made it possible for him to lose - w/o it Jim Webb is still an author by trade.

Ghost of Susan B. Anthony

I think that gaining control of the state senate should be on the list. That was great to achieve and will be critical over the next year or two.

Steven Latimer

Actually, Allen lost because he went on a statewide apology tour. Of course he's in touch with Virginians.

Brian W. Schoeneman

Don't throw the Frederick saga to the list. No one wants to remember him, and for good reason. More proof that almost anyone can win a seat in the House.

Bwana

With all due respect, #9 should be higher on the list...for all his failings Vance Wilkins was a dogged practical political tactician who had he and his staff not gotten caught in various insundry scandals could have kept the GOP candidates from making key mistakes that directly led to other items on your list.

Wren Jackson

"Let’s be clear. George Allen did NOT lose his reelection bid in 2006 because of the infamous Macaca moment."

WTF?

I absolutely agree that Macaca is the #1 story, but anyone who thinks Webb would have won minus Macaca is severely mentally handicapped.
Was Allen out of touch? Yes. Was he an idiot? Yes. Was he a shameless shill for George W Bush? Yes. Would he have lost the election if he had skipped the rally in Breaks, VA? No. Anyone who believes Webb could have won on his own merits is far to stupid for blogging, which is like being the dumbest person on the short bus.

Edthemanva

that's why I say..."Webb did not win,,Allen lost"

Bwana

Also...given that McDonnell's win in 2009 put a GOP governor in office in time for redistricting, it would seem to deserve a rank higher than #10...

DemMom

Some of these seem like such a long time ago, hard to believe it's all happened in this decade. If it were my list, Emily's death would be #1. That's my personal realtionship talking, but it altered the political picture pretty dramatically. Tim Kaine would not have been Governor (at least for the 2005-2009 term) if she hadn't passed away. And VA would have had their first female Governor.

Not A Virginia State Senator

MCDonnell will be a non factor in redistricting. The Senate will draw its plan and the House its plan and that will be that. He may play a role in Congressional redistricting if Tom and Glen survive this years elections

Gnarly

I really think you should only count electoral wins and losses on your "permanent" record if you were either the manager or general consultant. Any other level of involvement and how much you had to do with the win, or how much the loss wasn't your fault is just fodder for cocktail parties.

Charles

I don't think taking the senate back was a tremendous deal of the "decade" -- they had just barely lost the senate at the start of the decade, and at least two of the republicans in the senate were more like democrats anyway.

George Allen, WITH Macaca, lost by 10,000 votes, which means virtually 50% of Virginia still thought he WAS in "touch" with them (so he lost touch with HALF the voters).

Without Macaca, nobody really thinks Webb has a chance, so he doesn't. And if Macaca wasn't the 1st time it happened, Allen still wins, because he knows how to respond to the Washington Post hit squad like McDonnell did with the "thesis" coverage.

But if you want to be more "general", it wasn't "Macaca" that killed Allen, it was "N*gger". Or more exactly, the never-ending stream of people who were willing to claim they heard the word decades ago, including the real Larry Sabato before he had to admit he was just repeating stories from others.

Of course, without Macaca (and the ability of democrats to make the world believe the fake word actually existed and was a racial slur, with the help of Wikipedia), nobody believes Allen would say the N-word, and nobody would dare launch the anti-semitic attacks on him.

And he wouldn't have allowed his idiot campaign manager to attack the military base of his party with the stupid "pornographic" charges against Webb.

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