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change

Wow, a few months in office and he is actually “doing” something besides blaming the last administration for whatever problems he believes were left.


That’s leadership…

TomPaine

"That’s leadership…"

Only when you have low standards like "good job Brownie, "mission accomplished," ad infinitum!


What?

TP (ironic?)-

Why not just give credit where it's due - McD has accomplished more in 4 mos than Kaine did in 4 years . . .

Brian W. Schoeneman

Glad to see this panning out, especially after all of the wailing and gnashing of teeth from folks about the "essay" stuff.

KCinDC

Call me when he's restored voting rights to 4,500 people or however many Kaine's final tally was.

Also call me if he issues a blanket restoration, which is what people jumped on Kaine for not doing (because he said it wasn't legally possible).

Mr. Jefferson

Next step: expanded/further roles for drug courts.

Thank you, Gov. McDonnell.

change

The bottom line is that Barack Obama is history's greatest criminal, ever.

change

But, the President is a Demmycrat!

Jerry R. Long

Thank You Governor, this is a good thing for restoring people to productive citizenship. Not clear about the statement of "worthiness" by virtue of public service?

change

Come on guys, let's talk about Barack Obama now, sheep. No, I'm not obsessed.

Spock

Well, this is good news, good news indeed....

Score one for the MacD!

change

I am sure that those on this list who have read my posts will realize the posts that “children” may put forth under my name are not my opinions.

I suppose they are ashamed to type their own opinions…

Ahhh to be a child again…


btw... Did I mention Obambi in my original post??? Or are these im”posters” reading something into my post that they fear to be true???

Gretchen Laskas

Very promising. (And Brian, I'm still glad we wailed and gnashed our teeth over the essay requirement, since it seems to be have been removed.)

change

also,
Snowballs have a chance in hell... Spock and I agree...lol

change

Children. Sheep. Lemmings. Obama. All things I'd like to fuck.

Spock


Change- we have agreed on other stuff.

We are both pro-gun and against the smoking ban...so, every once in a while the snowball rolls.

I agree with this despite what party the Governor is who is doing this.

My question to you is, if this was being put forth by a Dem, would you still support this?

I support what I think is good for the people, whether it comes from a Dem or Repub, can you say the same?

change

http://www.cracked.com/funny-3809-internet-argument-techniques/

I use #2 a lot, you sad, pathetic children and liberal sheep.

change

I indeed can say the same Spock. For one, I support Zell Miller, who is a life long Democrat but left your loony party when it shifted far to the left.

Spock

Alt-ego Change- don't forget about Lieberman...

change

Also, child, you should be deeply concerned about Obama's plan to use the U.N. small arms treaty to ban guns...prepare....

MannyDC

It's so refreshing that Speaker Howell is finally in favor of this after countless voting rights bills died on the floor or in committee at his behest.

haha

Wow I guess I'm the only person in the room who actually opposes the restoration of rights for FELONS. No I really don't think you should be able to vote once you've been convicted of a CRIMINAL offense...

Oh well.

Mr. Thompson

Felons should just contribute $55,500 to Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli and they will get his support for restoration of their voting rights.

Esoteric

An overdue reform. Good on McD, and a nice way to get his administration back on track after some stupid controversies threatened to derail it.

Mark

Wow talk about over reacting. All this really does is guarantee convicted felons a faster "No." It does not change the standard for reinstatement of rights and does not change the fact that Virginia is one of only two states that does not automatically re-instate the right to vote.

In fact it does not even eliminate the essay requirement. The essay is now an "optional" statement of civic or community involvement. Of course the chances of getting restoration without the essay are slim to none.

Its all smoke and mirrors but no substance at all.

steve vaughan

Mark,
It was curious that the administration said it had processes the backlog of cases, but failed to say how many folks had their rights restored. So "a faster no" seems like a definite possibility.

The Donkey

Apparently the new system preserves the old 5 year waiting period for drug and violent offenses, and requires people in these categories to submit a statement, and three recommendations.

Gee. . . Wonders about the racial implications of this restoration distinction.

Jack

I really don't understand why we want to restore voting rights to someone who obviously makes monumentally bad decisions. Is it any wonder felons vote overwhelmingly for Democrats?

Spock

Jack- so if a certain demographic is more likely to vote in a way you don't like, you think they should not have their voting rights?

Jack

No, Spock, I'm saying that, BY DEFINITION, felons have shown poor decision-making. That is why they should not be automatically be given voting rights, AND why they tend to vote for Democrats.

Gretchen Laskas

The cynic in me realizes that yes, this could simply be a faster way to hand out the word "no." But the hopeful part of me takes note that this is an issue that most Virginians weren't even aware of this time last year, and now we have a Republican governor who feels that he must at least address it. That makes me think that as an issue, Virginia may finally be moving in the right direction, even if we continue to take baby steps.

TomPaine

" Is it any wonder felons vote overwhelmingly for Democrats?"

Except for those felons who vote Republican; you know the ones who commit grand larceny for big bucks and get whatever justice that can be bought.

Jack

Wasn't it CLINTON that pardoned a big donor?

steve vaughan

According to the gov's office today. They've made a decision on about 200 of the 1,050 completed applications (650 from the Kaine admin, 400 from McDonnell's) and they've restored the rights of about 175 people. Have no idea how that rate of restoration compares with any other governor. Kaine did restores the rights of more felons than any other Virginia governor.

steve vaughan

A: " Is it any wonder felons vote overwhelmingly for Democrats?"

Q: What is a statistics Jack totally pulled out of his butt.

Alec, I'll continue in "Republicans Just Stone Making Stuff Up" for $500.

Jack

In a 2003 study, sociologists Chistopher Uggen and Jeff Manza found that roughly 4.2 million had been disfranchised nationwide, a third of whom had completed their prison time or parole. Taking into account the lower voter turnout of felons, they concluded that about one-third of them would vote in presidential races, and that would have overwhelmingly supported Democratic candidates. Participation by felons, Messrs. Uggen and Manza estimated, also would have allowed Democrats to win a series of key U.S. Senate elections, thus allowing the party to control the Senate continuously from 1986 until at least this January.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/diary/?id=110006382

Jack

Now consider Florida, which disenfranchises not only prisoners but those who have already served their time. Our work suggests that if that state's 613,000 former felons had been permitted to vote — and even if you factor in a far-lower-than-expected turnout rate than the general population — Al Gore would have defeated George W. Bush by about 60,000 votes and would have been elected president.
http://www.longviewinstitute.org/perspectives/comments/debt_paid/

Not Larry Sabato

Who is this new troll named Jack?

Mark

The article cited by "Jack" is 7 years old and no longer reflects current law. Florida restored voting rights in 2007.

Jack

The demographics of criminals have changed that much in seven years? What's your source for that assertion, Mark?

Mike

Well, I suppose it's easy to process applications when the default is "denied". This is good news only if McDonnell can demonstrate a fair, expedient, and transparent process of deciding which individuals to re-enfranchise. No more traffic ticket disqualifications like in the Kaine administration, hopefully.

martha

I really don't understand why we want to restore voting rights to someone who obviously makes monumentally bad decisions. Is it any wonder felons vote overwhelmingly for Democrats?
Ever heard of REDEMTION?

martha

REDEMPTION...sorry!

Jack

1.an act of redeeming or the state of being redeemed.
2.deliverance; rescue.
3.Theology. deliverance from sin; salvation.
4.atonement for guilt.
5.repurchase, as of something sold.
6.paying off, as of a mortgage, bond, or note.
7.recovery by payment, as of something pledged.
8.conversion of paper money into specie.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/redemption

4, 5, and 6 seem like they might be relevant. Is this the "they paid their debt, so we should now let them make monumentally bad decisions for the rest of us, too" argument?

martha

There are many people who never have committted a felony( or at least have never been caught) who make monumental mistakes and bad decisions daily ( think BP and the oil spill...did you watch 60 minutes?). So yes.... they should be allowed to vote. Why is it that VA is one of only 2 ( I think) states that doesn't allow automatic restoration of voting rights?

Jack

It's that "they have never been caught" part that is the key. When they are caught, then we should keep them from making monumentally stupid decisions for the rest of us.

Mark

I did not assert that the demographics had changed. I said that Florida law had changed. You really need to read more carefully.

In 2007, Gov Crist (R) pushed through new proceedures for restoring voting rights. (Murderers and sex offenders are not eligible for restoration). 138000 people had their rights restored in the first two years of the program. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/12/us/12inmates.html

You really should read a post before you write a snarky reply.

Jack

My apologies, Mark. I misunderstood you. The fact remains that the vast majority of felons who vote vote for Democrats.

It also remains that it is a bad idea to have people with a proven record of monumentally bad decision making making decisions for the rest of us.

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