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Janet Pride

Hey Ben...you hear about Sam Rasoul?
http://www.roanoke.com/politics/wb/302453

SpotsyDem

Ben, are you accusing the Puckett campaign of mobilizing illegal underage voters to win?! This is a scandal!!!

"This Democratic victory came from coal *minors* and coal interests and should be a good reminder to Democrats in other parts of Virginia that they can still compete here with the right candidates and issues."

On a more serious note, it would be helpful to look at the performance of Presley in District 3 and Langrehr in District 12 to get an idea of how possible it is to find a "right candidate" who isn't an entrenched incumbent with years of good will to draw on.

A lot of this district was the 6th before redistricting. That district was competitive throughout the decade, but at the end of the decade it clearly started to shift to the Republicans. It didn't help that newer candidates didn't have the depth of service like Keister to draw on. The problem for Democrats is that it's harder and harder to find the "right candidate" in these areas.

Not Larry Sabato

Spotsy Dem- good catch on the typo. Will fix that.

I don't think Presley or Langrehr are great for comparing because of how widely outspent they were. That's because of a dysfunctional House Democratic Caucus. So who knows how they do with a real campaign like Puckett had.

Will Radle

Interested to know whom Adam Light was trying to persuade when he said, "Things like Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare: it is time to start phasing them out."

The plan I wrote keeps our promise to Americans and our families who work hard week after week, day after day. Make Social Security and Medicare solvent and sustainable. The plan I wrote is the only comprehensive economic and fiscal plan Representative James Moran ever submitted to the Congressional Budget Office for analysis in his time - over 20 years - on Capitol Hill.

We will move our nation forward together.

Flipper

The other piece you left out of this is turnout. In 2010 the coalfield counties -- which Boucher mostly won -- saw depressed turnout as miners largely stayed home.

Andrew

What Ben said about the House candidates is true all over the state.

What was specifically toxic about that Langrehr race was not just the money, but the candidate. I didn't realize this at the time, and I wish we'd seen this problem earlier, but Langrehr was apparently a turn off for non-Blacksburg MontCo and Giles voters for stopping the Wal-Mart in town limits. Blacksburgers might have liked it, but when you live in the far-flung parts of the county or in Giles where there's no big stores and the BBurg one would have been convenient for you, you probably didn't appreciate someone shutting that down to "preserve the unique character" of a town full of college kids.

Also, why are we talking about the 12th in relation to Puckett's district? They are very, very different. The 12th is much more friendly to Dems normally, even in the new boundaries. It should be one of the first 3 seats the Dems target in 2013. I doubt that's the case anywhere (aside from trying to hold Joe Johnson's seat?) in the 38th Senate.

Just an observation

Funny how this race represents "the right candidates and issues" for Puckett, who disavowed the President and voted to allow that abortion provider bill through the Senate, but if Ward Armstrong does essentially the same thing, he's demonized. Also, for all his kvetching about that provider bill, NLS seems to have a short memory when it comes to Phil Puckett.

I guess it just goes to show: for NLS, the only good candidate is one who kisses his ass. Everyone else is "terrible."

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