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The State Flag

No way. There is now way a state Secretary would do that.

Not Larry Sabato

He just deleted! I have a screen shot though! Stupid Republicans... internet lives forever!

Steve Vaughan

Ben, I've actually seen a naked woman before. That isn't one. That's a woman in a 1940s cheesecake pose not baring as much as 70% of the women you'd see on Virginia Beach on any random summer day.
Fail.

Not Larry Sabato

Steve, I didn't alter the image. That's what *HE* called a "naked" woman

Steve Vaughan

I know you didn't alter the image. I'm just trying to figure out why you think it's important.

GA Member

Steve, this is important because it's another example of the frat boy mentality among Richmond Republicans we saw on the floor of the House last Friday.

Tim Murtaugh

"GA Member" -

If you think that the atmosphere around the General Assembly is poor, I would direct you to the years when it was run by Tom Moss, Dickie and Chip.

I think Steve Vaughan might be able to verify that, because he and I saw it together.

Frat boys?

If that's what you're thinking about these days, then you have no idea what the past was like.

just the fats

It's not like they posted an unclothed or semi-clothed picture of Ben. Now THAT would be true horror!

The_PAZ

What's their excuse?

Tim Murtaugh

Who is this "GA Member"?

Most post under their real names.

AnonymousIsAWoman

There is a connection between the frat boy behavior of posting cheesecake images of "naked women" to be ogled and wanting to deny women access to birth control or the right to control their own reproductive health.

It's not a coincidence that these men can, on the one hand, make risque jokes about women and also want to humiliate a woman seeking an abortion by subjecting her to an invasive trans vaginal ultra sound (the only reason this was walked back was because it exploded in their faces and was a public affairs disaster)

The common denominator is that frat boys don't respect women as human beings. They are either "good girls" who are put on a pedestal or "sluts" to be vilified.

Rush Limbaugh ripped the pious veneer off the double standard of many of these social conservatives. Their dirty underwear is indeed showing.

change

Can someone show me where "women access to birth control" has been denied?

AnonymousIsAWoman

Once insurance does not pay for this, access becomes cut off for many women. Birth control pills can cost $1,000 per year.

A common ploy for the anti-choice groups, who can't in fact win either at the polls or in the courts, is to try to limit access to birth control or abortions by fighting funding for these medical procedures (and abortion is different from contraception despite the social conservatives continual attempts to conflate these two very different medical treatments).

Although they remain technically legal, without the ability to pay for them, women's access is as non existent as if they were illegal.

Steve Vaughan

Hi Tim,
Yeah, I'm happy to verify that the General Assembly is pretty boring these days compared to what it used to be like.

Annoyed Woman

I’m getting annoyed with people going on about how expensive birth control can be. Anything can be really expensive if you feel the name to buy name brands. I just got off the phone with a Target in Alexandria to confirm that the generic Ortho-Cyclen is $9 per month WITHOUT insurance. That would total to just under $130 p/year, well below $1,000.

strongerthandirt

I am a strong supporter of women's rights, but Ms. Fluke has spread a misstatement that birth control pills cost $1000 a year. A typical price (my wife checked online) is about a dollar a day. Go to the Planned Parenthood website and they say $15 to 50 per month. But there are a wide range of birth control methods available (unless you need the pill for medical purposes) and many are quite inexpensive. Condoms cost about $18 online, at Amazon, for about 60. Here's a study done by US News on a variety of methods: http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/alpha-consumer/2012/03/05/the-real-cost-of-birth-control

I am not a Republican, but the House GOP was right -- Ms. Fluke was not qualified to give testimony on the subject. The entire premise of her testimony was invalid.

strongerthandirt

Oh, I forgot to register my opinion on the post from the Secretary. It is highly inappropriate for a public official to post something like that. And it does smack of objectification of women.

change

AIAW,
Ok, I understand now…
It is not really that anyone is trying to “deny” contraception, it is that users don’t want to pay their fair share for it and they want someone else to purchase it for them.

Wouldn’t those on actual lifesaving med’s like heart/BP/cholesterol etc… want someone else to pay for it to?

Specialized Bike

change, what are the rules for semiautomatic toting gun activists? Haven't seen the swat team deployed for them like it was for the Tuesday march, where authorities questioned the right to bear lit flashlights and heavily armed troopers were darting in and out of the shadows even as women were following their permit

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